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Old 15th July 2004, 12:11 PM
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I'm just a mother in the UK with a big interest in homeopathy and I begin formal training to become registered next January.

I'm interested to hear if anyone has experience of using stramonium with kids who have problems with anger, violence, sociable, acceptable behaviour etc.

DD no 2, 5.5 yo has had Belladonna 200c twice in past and it hasn't touched her. In a class I went to last week we studied stramonium and I thought it leaned more towards her than Belladonna did.

She is , and always has been since toddler, a biter and kicker, she has the fears of dark and dogs, is a middle child and feels unloved and left out. Many other indications......

I'd like to hear from people with similiar experience.
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Hi Mamma,
YEs Stramonium is very helpful in children with these problems. It important however to find out what one seeks to heal with a remedy. One cannot change the basic nature of a child, but can bring abnormal behaviour into a balance.
The child won't stop being basically fearful or expressively aggressive, niether will she start feeling loved because of the remedy - but she will probably be better able to deal with stresses she experiences and won't be abnormally expressive.

Secondly, its more important to focus on healing what is pathological - esp. physical pathology when present - based on Herings Natures LAw of cure, and if such behaviour is part of this pathology, it will also be healed in the process.

Hope this helps.
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Thank you, doctorleela, for replying. I'm not sure that I understand the second part of your post (still learning the jargon) but I tried 3 doses of stram 30c, spaced 12 hours apart, last week.

I've watched and waited and noticed a few small things. She is now apologetic for minor things, and more polite. She has always been very deep and intuitive and this seems to occur a little bit more frequent than before, but the violent rages are still there and she will still have over the top tantrums. They have been no more or less frequent than before and with the same sort of stimulii, (usually frustration with smaller children). They have also been the same intensity. Things she says to people when angry seems to be nastier and more vicious and she still kicks out.

Hasn't realy helped calm the tension in the family much, as when she blows up, the whole family get it in the neck.

I' confused ??? What do I do next ?
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Hi Mamma,
A week is too short a time to expect behavioural change in a child so you'll need to wait and see.
If things don't change even in a month, then you need to consider having her history retaken by someone objective and check what is the remedy. If its still Stram then she needs a higher potency - otherwise a change of remedy.

What I meant in my second post is that physical pathology resolves according to Herings Nature's Law of Cure. It is essential to determine what a remedy is doing over time. Mere hapahzard behavioural improvement or haphazard disappearance of physical symptoms is not considered cure. So what may seem like an improvement may be a suppression or temporary palliation due to a partially indicated remedy.

Physical changes are a sure indication of whether healing is taking place in the right direction (based on the Law mentioned above). OFten suppression of physical illnesses in infancy or during your pregnancy, or even vaccinations cause this type of aggressive (etc) expression and behaviour in children. Hence it is very important to detail a complete history of the child and not base prescriptions on a few behavioural characteristics.
then all observations have to be made relative to a chronological development (included in the Law) or we'll never know what we are doing with our remedies for the longterm.

Hope this helps!
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I spoke to my daughters homeopath (who prescribed the Belladonna ) and she told me to go get a bottle of gin ! She said I was in for a bumpy ride, she also told me the Belladonna would have a marked change. She has been wrong on both counts. Not sure whether to stick with her and go back, or to change to the man whose class I attend.

Re Herings Law of cure, can you give me an example of how it works with emotional problems please. I understand the physical ailments part, but as my daughter is very healthy (though she has had vaccinations) and was breastfed til 2.5yrs, I'm not sure what sort of things to watch for. One thing that came to mind, she was born by cesarean and I was told there was a true knot in the umbilical cord, stramonium has the indcation of difficult birth doesn't it ?

Thanks again for replying, its nice to discuss with somebody knowledgable. I start college training in January and my informal class has finished for summer.
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Hi Mamma,
You could also take into account your emotional state during pregnancy - if different to what you normally are, which can give an idea of whether the remedy is appropriate. Often it has been observed that there is a strong corelation between what the mother experiences during pregnancy and what the emotional state of the child is.

Emotional improvement with a remedy means developing a balanced behaviour in stressfull situations - the basic nature is not going to change. BUt like I said there has to be emotional instruction and learning as well.
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I am interested in hearing from anyone about stramonium myself. My Homeopath thinks my son should be on Zinc M. and I think stramonium. Zinc has not yet moved in him. Unless a never changing state, or a state that changes for 24 hrs. in 4 weeks is moving.
I am troubled, I have only been learnin about Homeopathy for 8 months, BUT I think I need to against our Homeopath. Need immediate advice PLEASE!
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Tell us about your son SisJ
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Paul Herscu has written an excellent book on Stramonium, with an emphasis on children's issues.
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Isaiah is three. He was dignosed PDD about 9 months ago. He has spent the majority of his life very ill. Fevers from no where, pooh issues. He is allergic to dairy products. Has a very restricted diet! He has been under homeopathic treatment for about 8-9 months now. He takes i-Flora for kids to help his tummy. That seems to be pretty good for him. His attitude is very intense..to say the least! He screams ALOT talks like a monster. He is extremely aggressive...His speech has come a long way he used to not speak he would communicate by crying, pointing, screaming and use ALOT of body language. He seems to be an angry, fearful person. His father has a very large spirit of fear. I think he inherited that from his daddy. He does not play like other children. He thinks on a mechanical level. He loves to see how things work. So he will pick up somthing try to figure out how it works and then put it down and find another object to study. He is a very bright boy. I think he is very good at readibng people. There will be times a person is around that he is not sure about and usually you can tell if they are easy to read if there not he will cover his eyes, and try to avoid them. My husband is VERY hard to read and I think that makes my son nervous. What else can I say about him...HE is very despotic. he ised to be afraid of dogs, not so much now. He has a difficult time sleeping. Usually around 12am-3 he awakes screaming and crying pulling his legs to his chest(is it his tummy, os Apis?) He has night sweats. esp. on his head. He has a buzzed head and he still sweats! He recently had chicken pox that had a huge affect on his system. It was difficult to see his state. His HOmeopath thinks he still needs work for his immune system and nervous system. I do know this after he had his 1st dose of stramonium he started to sleep very well, the next day he was trying to share a popsicle with a dog that a few weeks earlier he was deathly afraid of! His social skiils started to blossom. I don't know what else to say about him. He does try. Oh he flaps his hands when he gets excited, plays with his fingers, picks at his blanket, very restless, jealous, opens and closes his eyes repeatidly...(Hyoscyamus Niger?) He is so close to stramonium, zinc m and hyos. It is such a hard call. Hyos I think would be good..but I also think, and have seen the effects of stramonim to. It is not easy at this point! Any input would be greatly appreciated!
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