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Old 2nd October 2009, 03:32 AM
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If it's not a science without laws, then laws are a prerequisite for science.
If you can't make the law with reference to science, what do you make it with? This is obviously nonsense. A branch of science can exist with any number of "laws" associated, including zero.

This seems to me a misleading argument, you're trying to make homeopathy seem valid because it has "laws" associated with it. But those laws did not come from any other branch of science. They came to support homeopathy. And now homeopathy is supported by those laws? This is circular, and pointless.
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Deductive logic is one that uses a premise - which is a generalisation of events to form a "prediction" of similar events. As an example "If I take poison I would die". That is a premise that all of us could agree on. However if I were to die tomorrow could I then infer or deduce that I had taken poison the day before ? There are so many causes that could kill me but to infer from an established premise that I was only killed by poison, you would agree, is silly. But isn't this exactly what allopaths wanted us to believe.

Let's take a concrete example. Taking ephedra would reduce asthmatic symptom. In truth this statement is true only in some cases. The cases in the study in which asthmatics had found relief were actually not due to the drug but due to other events. Using ephedra or the synthetic version of it came from traditional chinese medicine. The chinese had used ma huang, a natural ephedra drug, for healing asthmatic symptoms. In chinese medicine there is no diseases only imbalances. But such wholistic medicine understood that ephedra cannot be used for all cases exhibiting asthmatic symptoms. In the chinese wu xing model of the body-mind-spiritual complex the asthmatic symptoms could be due to problems in the Heart channel or in the Spleen channel. Only those cases where asthmatic symptoms are caused by external pathogenic factors could ma huang be used. If the causes are due to disharmony in the heart or spleen then suppressing the symptoms in the lung will cause what the chinese call a rebellion and the problems is driven inwards to the spleen or the heart.

More and more asthmatic patients now could not be relieved from using ephedra because the cause really came from stress(heart) than from external pathogenic factors. But allopathic medicine do not have the capacity nor does it have a model to distinguish between the various "asthmatic symptoms". And so if it worked for 30% of the test subjects than by inductive logic it must work for the rest. In truth the 70% of the test subjects that the drug has no effect or was harmful had a better foundation for the inductive logical conclusion that the drug doesn't work.
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