please advise what to do to antidote if you are forced to take anti swine
flue vaccine .

regards

k malik


On 8/16/09, homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com <homeolist (AT) otherhealth (DOT) com> wrote:
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>
> I am copying below a post from "The After effects of Taking Tamiflu"
> which is of interest on this Thread which is attracting unprecedented
> interest from members and visitors as it has recorded 1790 visits within
> the short period of just 3 weeks.
>
> I am glad that I have served in some way to alert members and visitors
> to this Forum of the inherent danger of taking Tamiflu and worse still
> of being compelled to take the vaccination that is due for release in a
> few months as both governments have been persuaded by Big Pharma that it
> will provide prophylaxis against the Swine Flu virus. The drug Tamiflu
> has been found to be of very little use to overcome the H1N1 virus while
> the inherent danger of using an untested vaccine due for release by the
> governments of both the US and the UK may be seen in the health of the
> respective populations of both countries in the years to come by those
> who have been unfortunate enough to have been vaccinated against their
> better judgement.
>
> My advice to all who seek Prophylaxis against the Swine Flu is to take
> Gelsemium 30 in the Wet dose just once daily till the virus dies a
> natural death. Gelsemium has been done so in Sri Lanka 2 years ago when
> we were plagued by the Chikun Gunya virus and I am convinced that it can
> do so against the H1N1 Virus too.
>
> PLEASE REFUSE TO TAKE THE ANTI SWINE FLU VACCINE.
>
>
>
>
> 16th August 2009, 08:55 AM
> Dhiru Nathwani
> Guest
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> Posts: n/a
> Re: After effects of taking Tamiflu --- Guardian
> Joe, how many homeopaths know that TAMIFLU is made from a homeopathic
> medicine listed in the Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States,
> Illicum anisatum, also known as Illicium (Star Anise)? No wonder it is
> producing serious side effects in patients because the active
> ingredient in
> TAMIFLU is not potentised.
>
> I am also wondering how the active ingredient got the patent, and FDA
> approval.
>
> Dhiru Nathwani
>
> #9 (permalink)
> 16th August 2009, 12:01 PM
> Joe De Livera
> Senior Member
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> Join Date: Jan 2004
> Location: Colombo, Sri Lanka
> Posts: 228
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> To Dhiru Nathwani
>
> Thank you for responding to this discussion and alerting members to
> news that "TAMIFLU is made from a homeopathic medicine listed in the
> Homeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States, Illicum anisatum, also
> known as Illicium (Star Anise)?"
>
> I was not aware of this fact and if you have any further information
> with references, please share it with us as it would serve to increase
> the awareness of members and the general public.
>
> I have checked Wikipedia for Star Anise and am copying a paragraph on
> this plant on :
>
> Star anise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
>
> "Medicinal uses
>
> Star anise has been used in a tea as a remedy for rheumatism, and the
> seeds are sometimes chewed after meals to aid digestion. As a warm and
> moving herb, Ba Jiao is used to assist in relieving cold-stagnation in
> the middle jiao, according to TCM.
>
> Shikimic acid, a primary feedstock used to create the anti-flu drug
> Tamiflu, is produced by most autotrophic organisms, but star anise is
> the industrial source. In 2005, there was a temporary shortage of star
> anise due to its use in making Tamiflu. Late in that year, a way was
> found of making shikimic acid artificially. Roche now derives some of
> the raw material it needs from fermenting E. coli bacteria. The 2009
> swine flu outbreak led to another series of shortages as stocks of
> Tamiflu were built up around the world, sending prices soaring.[1]
>
> Star anise is grown in four provinces in China and harvested between
> March and May. Its also found in the south of New South Wales. The
> shikimic acid is extracted from the seeds in a ten-stage manufacturing
> process which takes a year. Reports say 90% of the harvest is already
> used by the Swiss pharmaceutical manufacturer Roche in making Tamiflu,
> but other reports say there is an abundance of the spice in the main
> regions - Fujian, Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan.
>
> Japanese star anise (Illicium anisatum), a similar tree, is not edible
> because it is highly toxic (due to containing sikimitoxin); instead, it
> has been burned as incense in Japan. Cases of illness, including
> "serious neurological effects, such as seizures", reported after using
> star anise tea may be a result of using this species. Japanese star
> anise contains anisatin, which causes severe inflammation of the
> kidneys, urinary tract and digestive organs.
>
> Using Star Anise as a remedy for colic is dangerous as referenced
> here."
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>
>
> It would be wonderful if Star Anise can be Homeopathically potentized
> and its use tested as a Homeopathic remedy to be used against the H1N1
> virus.
>
> In the meanwhile I would strongly recommend that Gelsemium 30 is used
> in the Wet dose taken just once daily as it has afforded 100%
> prophylaxis against the Chikun Gunya virus about 2 years ago in Sri
> Lanka and it is very likely that it can also afford the same immunity
> against the Swine Flu Virus.
>
>
> --
> Joe De Livera
>
> Joe De Livera
> Colombo
> Sri Lanka
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