Just a few keynote symptoms of nat. mur -consolation aggravates-to be considered If very strongly marked; laughing to the point of tears flowing{ as if there is simply an overabundance of tears, not from any sudden emotional change from happiness to sadness}- considered by some to be a golden symptom when considering nat. mur. Lesser known symptom May be excessive sleepiness after last meal of evening;may also be dry patches of skin in certain portions of body concomitant with excessive tearing,for example as if there is a lack of homogeneity of distribution of moisture between different parts of body; usually marked dislike for eating fatty or "slimy" foods; a person who is usually hard to wake up in morning-maintaining grogginess for a longer time than would be expected. one case of mine greatly improved after taking nat. mur. with this last symptom. As I do, have gone a little farther than I thought, but this was written on the spur of the moment- hope these give you greater insight, because if you are still using nat. mur., only in my opinion you may have not have found correct simillimum. Best Regards, Fredric.