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Originally Posted by BillyJoe
Ha, ha :)
Yes, a modern day Frankenstein!
Yes, well, I think it will eventually be possible for a person to be created by combining molecules to form a genotype, placing them in an ovum and allowing nature to take its course in growth and development of the phenotype (body) and the programming of the brain through normal interaction with the environment as the body grows. What purpose this would serve I do not know.
However, to create a fully grown person and program the brain without the usual environmental interaction, would, I think, prove extremely difficult, if not completely impossible. I don't think we will see it in our lifetime, fortunately.
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THe Japanese will be interested! The native Japanese population has started to decrease recently, and there are not enough people to look after the elderly, so what they are doing is trying to do robot research hoping to replace people with robots. THey actually say that it's nicer to have a robot around, you don't have to feel bad to ask him to pour you a cup of tea - I'm sorry now that I did not save this quote, it was in the newspaper.
Why do you say that there will be no environmental influence? Who would prevent you to put your artifical individual into a group to help them grow up - if this is possible at all?
WHere will the ovum come from?
If you beleive that brain runs "under a program" (however that is created), how creative activity like art could be possible? Or from another angle, why do some people like red colour and some hate it, for example? Because they were taught so?
Why do you not want to see this "in our lifetime"? If matter is primary - what difference will a naturally born person have from a Frankenshtein? If you follow all the steps correctly - you seem to beleive that you know all about the human body to be very definite in your conclusions that you write to Lew and other people, so you should be able to control everything, right? - what makes you uncomfortable, or did I misunderstand you?
You know, to understand that feelings are real - which you seem to dismiss as a possibility - you need to come to Japan and live here for a certain period, preferable surrounded entirely by the natives. In the beginning you will just feel uncomfortable, and then you will notice that the (majority of - there are exceptions, of course) people around you DO NOT FEEL anything at all and do indeed function under a program. And then you'll know how creepy is this and how it is an important part of being a human - to feel something. And just how vital it is... And you will not need any knowledge of the quantum physics theory or any other theory for that matter to understand that.
THanks for all the quotes about vaccines, that must have been a lot of work for you to compile them.
But why do you deny the person their desire to find out something? THey have the right to know whatever they want, you can only provide them with your information, and then they will decide what interests them and what not. We cannot really tell people what their favourite colour - or field of interest - should be, why does that bother you? THey are not going to use any of your money, or cause YOU any real harm. You say that the lobby is small but powerful - why don't you create a large and powerful lobby against them - if this corresponds better to your "meaning of life" - by the way, I forgot, where they are doing their lobbying? I really did not hear about that, and I have not heard about homeopathic vaccinations until recently, although I'm studying homeopathy for 10 years already. In fact, my feeling (MY FEELING, I would like to stress) is that any vaccinations are unnatural - humanity has managed to survive without them for many long thousands of years, and there are ways to boost one's immunity in a natural way in most traditional - in the real sense - having long history - medicines and by wholesome nutritional practices, just eat good fresh food! Even in Africa, it seems, there are herbal treatment for various diseases, although I do not know much about this.
A robust child can be expected to handle any naturally possible external shock - like contact with a contagious agent, at least your own grandparents and all previous generations have been able to withstand all this, and it became possible for you to have been born, right? Why do you think that modern children cannot do this? Have they become so weak that it worries you that they will not survive - in massive numbers? After all, there are always casualties, a brick can fall on your head - there obviously can be no vaccination against this, and no other means of preventing this. Like the great Tsunami on Christmas vacations in the Indian Ocean 2 years ago (if I'm not mistaken) - recently my sister-in-law's relative - a 14 year old girl - has died after contracting a simple common cold, certainly you would not think about this as a fatal disease, as you propose to use this condition in your trial - but the fact is that she has died! It was not even a flu, just a common cold as by autopsy. Maybe, it's true then that people have become weaker? Then it would be useful to try to find out why - and try to make them stronger - rather than engaging in highly educated debates. I'll check your references, though, and please permit me to comment if I find something I could say or would like to ask you, will you?
THanks!
Elena