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Old 4th September 2007, 10:18 AM
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I am NOT planting seeds of doubt.
But what you had posted continued to be plastered with subtle and actually downright gross suggestions of how homoeopathy doesn't work. What is the intent of all these ? Why also recount an incident that could evoke fear in others ? Why indeed ?

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I am asking a question, which you haven't answered. Have you had experience of negativity towards you BECAUSE you are a Homeopath?
I'm a student of homoeopathy at the moment. Trained in physics. Taught for over 23 years as a lecturer.

So what has been treated negatively by others got anything to do with WHAT I HAD RAISED ? and i.e. why continue to put homoeopathy in the bad light while not even lifting a finger to show that the bad light were indeed wrong. You just plaster the doubt here and again what was your intention of doing that ?

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Yes, I removed my posts. I wrote them, they were mis-understood and now YOU are giving me a hard time by saying that they I shouldn't have removed them.
I'm not giving you a HARD time because you had REMOVED your post. I'm pointing out what I see. If I'm wrong it is very simple to prove it ; defend homoeopathy DIRECTLY and stop posting articles after articles of how the sceptics are giving homoeopaths a hard time and then providing links to studies that show homeopathy was indeed false. On the one hand you say you support homoeopathy without giving evidences and then on the other hand, you provided opposing evidences to denigrate what you support. What's your intention here ?

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Where are we not seeing eye to eye?
It has nothing to do with seeing eye to eye over homoeopathy but the WAY in which you had used the forum to promote links and evidences that denigrate homoeopathy. My intent was to question your intent. It's that simple.

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How can you accuse me of planting seeds of doubt? Why the b****** hell would I want to do that, when I am a practicing Homeopath. I write Homeopathic articles for Homeopathic journals, I appear on BBC radio talking about, defending, explaining Homeopathy. You have done NO research on me other than to lay into me with stupid, juvenile ideas.
Those are not words of a pacifist . So you had done all those things. Great. Now defend homoeopathy in the appropriate manner and stop planting those articles and links that denigrate homoeopathy. Prove your worth as a true advocate of homoeopathy. People don't judge you from what I've said but by your own behaviour. I just pointed it out and it is for others to form their conclusion.

You still haven't answered what was your intention of planting those articles and links that denigrate homoeopathy and worst, gave a horrifying experience with the use of homoeopathy. What was your intention of such fear mongering ?

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If you want to know about infiltrating etc then read the posts from
'Bethan'. 'She' is this bloke below:
Don't know , don't care really. If Bethan were to write as you do I would consider contesting her way of presentation....I'm a student not only of homoeopathy but of chinese medicine (mainly acupuncture) and so my time is really limited. I write whenever I coud - on top of other obligations in my life.

You could give up this account and create another one and if you write sensibly I'll respond appropriately. It is NOT YOU but the MANNER in which you had posted. So why take it so PERSONALLY.

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When I post I put on my website address, my full name and my photo. You have a pseudonym, no website and no personal details.
Even acting need props. On the internet, MANY - not ALL, know that identity could be easily faked. So we often judge the other person by what they say or do rather than who they are in real life. They can pretend to be the queen of england and if she behaves like a ruffian than people will act or react accordingly.

Btw. Chiongguo is my real name. You can look up
http://djhampa.spaces.live.com. Djhampa is my buddhist name. I've no need to hide.

On a side note, you are quite beautiful

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Neither does 'she' and funny how she says she can't help

"I'm sorry but as I just use homeopathy I can't help"

Since when did a Homeopath, a TRUE Homeopath EVER say they can't help when there are over 2000 remedies in our Materia Medica?
I don't know who he is but after spending a bit of time at the badscience forum, just lurking, one thing I'm quite sure of is that the schalxxx guy won't use pseudonym. His ego is just too big.

I don't know who Bethan is but I think she's a gentle kindly lady.....but I could be wrong . But I won't lose any sleep over it for sure.

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This is my last post on this forum for another 4 years, because, once again, I come across someone who is unable to discuss, in a sensible manner, without going over the top, a sensible topic.
Viktor Frankl the "Will to Meaning" fame said that if you want to "help illuminate the path for others you should not be afraid of the heat."

I believe I had pointed out a very valid concern of a lot of people who are well-meaning in using homoeopathy. But because homoeopathy is beginning to make an in-road into modern medicine such a healing modality advancement has to be stopped. And the big pharma companies have a hell lot of money. From what I was told that these people were actually full-time worker just sitting there the whole day writing taunts, casting aspersion, denigrating, planting seeds of doubt, spreading a bit of fear etc. The approach is to misinform, disinform and spread outright lies. The quackwatch website is actually riddled with a lot of lies but who would take the trouble to check out all that they say was truthful. When I first looked at the website I endeavoured to check out a few things just to see how honest they are....they are not. They are actually very adept at twisting facts. The wordsmith that they had hired are really very good in giving false impression by the way they construct their sentences.

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I'm too busy practicing Homeopathy and healing my patients to waste my time with someone who just likes to fight.
Oh..no...I'm actually a very peaceful person. I meditate a lot every day. I had been a victim of malicious rumour mongering for many years now and I know how these things can harm not only the person but even those who believed in it. While it is my karma and I accept it, I never go out to seek revenge or to harm another. I can say with confidence I've NOT HARMED another deliberately. I don't even harbour such thoughts and I often prayed for those who had harmed me.

Don't run away just because I had "given you a hard time". If you could really help others and are sincere about it why run away.


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