Re: Re: [Minutus] Will Taylor post/sycosis 1
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Originally Posted by Luise
Let's modify the statement: it is *not* gonorrhea in the way we define the two diseases to-day.
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Originally Posted by Luise
This seems to be a indisputable fact.
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Dear Luise,
There is much more to the gonorrhea cum sycosis-excrescence miasm than what the allopaths think it is! What Hahnemann wrote was only his fragmentary early observations. Over the last 180 years much clinical information has been collected on this subject. So many cases that developed all the classic signs of sycosis (fishy smells, yellow-greenish catarrhal discharges, kidney stones, moles, flecks, hairy spots, stiff joints, heart problems, memory loss, etc.) had their cases resolve when a gonorrheal-like discharge returned under homeopathic treatment. These are clinical facts and we have many case histories that confirm this. I have had such cases. I think this information is very important. It is this data and the cases histories that support it that is most important.
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Originally Posted by Luise
Thuja et al cover the sx of both diseases - no saying whether that is because they are at root the same or whether they just happen to do so (as Sulphur and Hepar cover most of the manifestations of "psora").
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All I can say is that they have the similar root in the fact that the patient was susceptible to the both these manifestations. Not all people catch HPV or gonorrhea, or any other venereal disease, even on contact. It is a question of susceptibility.
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Originally Posted by Luise
So, if you give say Thuja for the fig-wart-disease - there is no tag on the rx telling it where to apply. If that person also had had gonorrhea (which is always very likely) Thuja would of course also address the latter.
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Diseases that have a similar band of susceptibility are removed my similar remedies. Hahnemann pointed out that what people call many so-called "different diseases" can be related to one miasm. In other cases, they may be complex miasms involving more than one dissimilar cause.
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Originally Posted by Luise
And the observable and observed fact that the two diseases very often occur together can also be explained without pre-supposing an interrelationship: at sexual intercourse the conditions for simultaneous infection with both - if the partner carries both diseases - is very likely.
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I have seen cases where both the symptoms of the suppressed gonorrheal discharges and the warts resolve under treatment. I have seen cases where gonorrhea was suppressed and the classic sycotic symptoms appear without any HPV warts. I think such clinical experiences are more important than theory. As to the final proof about what really constitutes sycosis - I certainly don't have all the answers!
More than one so-called disease can be related to a single chronic miasm like psora, etc. Hahnemann pointed out that pimples, boils, even lebrosy (bacteria) as well as tetter (fungi), herpes (viruses) and scabies (mites) can all produce the psoric syndrome when suppressed. That means he did NOT link psora to one specific microorganism. I believe these skin infections produce a similar chronic syndrome when suppressed because they share a similar susceptibility, a similar pathways of disease, and similar chronic signs and symptoms. The same may be true with sycosis, etc. This is what we have to check out through clinical observation and the reversal of symptoms under successful treatment.
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Originally Posted by Luise
Let's face it: Hahnemann's miasm theory is weak to ludicrous. This does not detract from his genius: it is a lot better than any of the other disease theories of his time (and maybe as good as or better than those of to-day).
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Well, I am have to disagree with you here as to the words "weak to ludicrous". Hahnemann is the Founder of modern epidemiology and he introduced some very profound ideas that have been brought up to date by generations of homeopaths. He was the first to work out a coherent hypothesis of susceptibility, primary infections, latent states, and secondary and tertiary symptoms. This is neither weak nor ludicrous. Some of the details may be wrong or need improvement but the central thesis is very profound.
What is the essence of the miasm theory? It is that suppressing the primary symptoms and skin lesion leads to a host of life long chronic symptoms. That is what it is all about. Secondly, he pointed out that the symptoms of these miasms reverse toward their original cause under homeopathic treatment. These ideas have proven quite accurate in the clinic over the last 180 years. This information alone is worth its weight in gold!!!
His basic observations about the suppression of skin disease and its constitutional sequels have been confirmed in the clinic. I have had many serious chronic cases resolved when a suppressed skin lesions returned to the skin and then passed away. This is really quite profound and practical rather than weak or ludicrous. It is these clinical confirmations that I trust the best. Sure all the details don't fit perfectly as he was dealing with completely new ideas.
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Originally Posted by Luise
He just did not have the knowledge.
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Hahnemann's information on the suppression of skin infections is massive, detailed and very accurate in its clinical observations. A few of the details may be wrong or questionable but the over hypothesis have proved very important and very accurate. His work on sycosis was fragmentary at best and some of his statements on syphilis seem odd. Nevertheless. his insights into the outcome of the suppression of the primary symptoms and skin lesions are very profound and accurate.
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Originally Posted by Luise
Look at what he writes about Syphilis:
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Originally Posted by Luise
"The disease is not cured except when through the effect of the internal remedy alone, the chancre is cured; but it is fully extinguished, as soon as through the action of the internally operating medicine alone (without the addition of any external remedy) the chancre is completely cured, without leaving any trace of its former presence.
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This has been done more than once. Syphilis has been cured by internal homeopathic remedies.
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Originally Posted by Luise
I have never, in my practice of more than fifty years, seen any trace of the venereal disease break out, so long as the chancre remained untouched in its place, even if this were a space of several years *(for it never passes away of itself)*1, and even when it had largely increased in its place, as is natural in time with the internal augmentation of the venereal disorder, which increase takes place in time in every chronic miasma.
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Originally Posted by Luise
But whenever anyone is so imprudent, as to destroy this vicarious local symptom, the organism is ready to cause the internal syphilis *to break out into the venereal disease*2, since the general venereal disease dwells in the body from the first moment of infection"
*1 This statement is quite a surprise to me. At naturopathic school we had to cram venereal diseases for the License Exam. I am sure I would remember if that had been part of the Syphilis picture. Does anyone know??
*2 what does he mean by that???
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Yes, this does not conform to the symptom pattern of syphilis as commonly understood. It is taught that the chancre usually passes off on its own but it usually leaves a discoloration. This then leads to the latent and tertiary symptoms. We are not sure, however, exactly what the pattern was in the early 1828s. Modern syphilis has changed its infection pattern. These days many cases no longer develop a chancre and the disease passes right into the latent state. I read several studies on this. This is very dangerous because the patient doesn't know they have syphilis. This means there larger pool of syphilis cases that is commonly understood. This is because of suppression by modern antibiotics, etc.
Read H. Coulter's work, which is named something like AIDS and Syphilis, the Hidden Link. It has some of these studies. Syphilis is the great masquerader as well as the master of mutation. It has constantly changed it symptom pattern since the 1400s, when it could actually kill Europeans quite quickly. Hahnemann said in 1828 the chancre never passes off by itself, in 1940s and 50s they said it passes away on its own, and now they say many times the chancre doesn't even appear! There is more to syphilis than meets the eye. What's next???
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Originally Posted by Luise
And as to contemporary miasm-theories you mention below - well: which one do you mean?
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First of all, Hahnemann is the Founder of the miasm doctrine. To this has been added the experience of several generations of homeopaths over the last 180 years. Boennighausen, Kent, J.H. Allen, H.C. Allen and others have written about this. His basic idea that the suppression of the primary symptoms and skin lesions of the miasms leads to more complicated chronic diseases has been well confirmed. His assertion that these symptoms will reverse toward their original cause under proper homeopathic treatment has also been confirmed. I have seen this in cured cases many times This is the essence. Some of the newer ideas are those of Sankaran and others. They may diverge on the details, even what they think the miasms really are, but the relationship of suppression to chronic disease remain coherent. This is what is most important
Sincerely, David Little
Last edited by jonh; 27th November 2004 at 04:49 PM.
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