thanks chacha, I think I'll take apis, everyone is freaking about the swelling, would like to take it down if possible. The swollen skin is definitely hot to the touch, none of the wounds are deep I think it just looks really nasty because of the force of the bite causing so much swelling -woke up to my two males getting into it again, in my haste I put myself between them (Stupid!!!!). Not too worried, just anxious to make it look better so that people stop getting worked up about it. Painful though, makes you stop and think about what that poor 4 year old boy went through when he was killed by 4 rotties (my bite was a single bite from a 50lb border/lab)-could you imagine being torn apart by 4x120lb?? What was that parent thinking!!!!!