Scruffrat, My take on the kreos is that the patient is usually chilly or cold, also that the mouth is full of decayed teeth, foul smelling and generally really gross. Also urination is frequent. My gal has had all the teeth removed, there is no odor or drool from her mouth -in fact there is no infection just inflamation of the back area extending to the throat (looks a little like raw hamburger back there). I have posted on another thread looking for additional info on kreos or a clinical perpsective because I am not too familiar with this remedy and I have not used it before, I'm not sure if I am interpreting its description properly. Can you shed some light on it for me please? This cat is wild and extremely difficult to medicate and monitor. She has been confined for over a month now and I feel pressure to let her go before she goes bonkers on me, I guess thats why I'm being so careful with what she is getting so I don't unnecessarily prolong her case. Thanks in advance!