Exactly! I do not believe for one instant you can fool plants either, and if you take a look in the older posts, you will find some information there.
Also I do not believe your claim that all I mentioned about the changes in patients occurs in any placebo-effect. I happen to have very reliable information, from studies doen at the Free University in Amsterdam, that such facial changes are never recorded in placebo trials. I have seen countless videos of placebo receivers and nobody can fool me to belive that it is the equivalent of what you see after the similimum. No placebo has effect - in fact not even a real allopathic medicine - within five minutes after ingestion. No medicine or placebo can change so profoundly the entire outlook of a patient, as is possible with the similimum.
If this whole thread is to prove us placebo prescribers, nice ploy.

Let us propose a scientific experiment. Dear Dr, I invite you to a dose of 50M Belladonna, to be taken 3 doses in a row, over a period of 3 days.
To assure you I will not give you anything remotely material - and thus nothing but placebo in your eyes - a 50M potency, comes down to 1 divided by 100, to the power of 50,000. or differently said, we take one drop and mix with 99 drops of either water or alcohol and give it ten hard succussions on a thick book. Then we take from this 1 drop and mix with99, again with ten hard slams on the book. This process is repeated 50,000 times. So there should be nothing left and be just water or alcohol - take your pick.

We will grant you the grace to not having to repeat the dose, in the unlikely event that something WILL happen. However, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS, WE LIKE YOU TO BE HONEST ENOUGH TO POST IT HERE AT THE BB.
As we figure that you will either scoff at it or take it serious, I await your reply in anticipation. It is only after that, that a sensible discussion about placebo effect can take place. And as experience is the best teacher, the ball is in your court.

[This message has been edited by Ben Rozendal (edited 28 September 1999).]